BILLION DOLLAR COMEDIANS & THE BEST MOVIES PART 2 | THE 85 SOUTH SHOW

1. The 'Lion King' Debate

Timestamp: 00:00:00 to 00:01:00 - watch this moment on skim

A humorous debate erupts over whether one of the hosts has actually seen 'The Lion King,' with strong opinions expressed about its cultural significance and its portrayal of the Black experience, suggesting it teaches valuable life lessons about resilience.

Significance (Low): This lighthearted exchange underscores the cultural impact of iconic films and how they can be interpreted as reflections of shared experiences, even within a comedic context.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host)

Sources against: Justin Whitehead (Guest)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest)

2. The 'Precautious' Mindset

Timestamp: 00:03:14 to 00:05:15 - watch this moment on skim

DC Young Fly defines 'precautious' as planning preventative measures before a situation arises, contrasting it with 'cautious' which is reactive. He stresses the importance of this mindset due to the unpredictable and sometimes dangerous nature of public interactions, especially for celebrities.

Significance (Medium): This distinction offers a valuable insight into proactive safety and risk management, emphasizing the need for foresight in navigating a world where public figures can attract unwanted attention.

Sources in support: DC Young Fly (Host), Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

3. Awkward Fan Encounters & Privacy

Timestamp: 00:04:05 to 00:07:45 - watch this moment on skim

The comedians recount numerous awkward and intrusive fan encounters, particularly in private settings like bathrooms or during family time. They emphasize the need for fans to respect personal space and understand that celebrities have lives beyond public appearances, advocating for a simple nod instead of demanding photos.

Significance (Medium): This highlights the constant tension between celebrity status and personal privacy, illustrating the challenges public figures face in maintaining boundaries and the often-unreasonable expectations from fans.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

4. The 'Hating' vs. Disliking Debate

Timestamp: 00:09:38 to 00:11:38 - watch this moment on skim

A debate arises about the difference between 'hating' someone and simply 'disliking' them, particularly in the context of online arguments and public perception. The discussion touches on how accusations of hate can be used to shut down valid criticism.

Significance (Medium): This delves into the nuances of interpersonal dynamics and online discourse, questioning the validity of labeling disagreement as 'hate' and exploring the motivations behind public criticism.

Sources in support: DC Young Fly (Host)

Sources against: Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

5. The Crack Cocaine Conspiracy

Timestamp: 00:13:31 to 00:18:30 - watch this moment on skim

The discussion posits that the crack cocaine epidemic was not organic but a deliberate operation, with crack money being used to fund covert wars, specifically mentioning the Contras in Nicaragua. This suggests a larger geopolitical manipulation that devastated Black communities.

Significance (High): This claim reframes the crack epidemic from a social issue to a tool of state-sponsored warfare, raising profound questions about government complicity and the intentional destruction of communities for political gain.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

6. The 'Color Purple' Acclaim

Timestamp: 00:22:47 to 00:24:47 - watch this moment on skim

The film 'The Color Purple' is lauded as a powerful and realistic portrayal of Black history, with speakers expressing strong admiration for its artistic merit and emotional depth, suggesting it deserved more accolades.

Significance (High): This highlights the enduring significance of 'The Color Purple' as a landmark film in Black cinema, emphasizing its ability to resonate deeply with audiences through its authentic depiction of historical experiences.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

7. Karloous Miller: 'The Color Purple' as an Early Urban Success Story

Timestamp: 00:23:09 to 00:25:58 - watch this moment on skim

Karloous Miller posits that 'The Color Purple' depicted an early form of urban success, with the character Mr. ' a wealthy, independent Black man who owned land and could attract women, representing a significant departure from typical portrayals of Black men at the time. He highlights the character's financial success and his desire for Celie as central to the narrative's complexity. The discussion touches on the character's eventual downfall and the film's setting in North Georgia. The point resolves with the acknowledgment of the character's layered struggles and the film's nuanced depiction of relationships and societal constraints.

Significance (Medium): This interpretation reframes a classic film, emphasizing its portrayal of Black economic independence and romantic pursuit within a challenging historical context. It invites a deeper look at the character's motivations and the film's social commentary.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

8. DC Young Fly: Cartoons Were Wildly Adult

Timestamp: 00:26:25 to 00:30:10 - watch this moment on skim

DC Young Fly argues that the cartoons they watched growing up, like Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck, were far more adult-oriented than modern children's programming. He points to instances of cross-dressing, violence, suggestive humor, and drug references as evidence. The discussion highlights how these cartoons depicted complex scenarios and adult themes that are rarely seen today, suggesting a shift in content standards and audience expectations. The point concludes with the observation that these older cartoons were essentially 'grown folk' material disguised as children's entertainment.

Significance (High): This perspective challenges the nostalgic view of childhood cartoons, revealing a hidden layer of adult content that may have influenced viewers. It prompts a re-evaluation of media censorship and the evolution of children's entertainment standards.

Sources in support: DC Young Fly (Host), Karlous Miller (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

9. The 'DA Apartments 2' Project

Timestamp: 00:29:23 to 00:30:23 - watch this moment on skim

The hosts mention their upcoming film project, 'DA Apartments 2,' generating excitement for its release and hinting at the continuation of a popular narrative or concept.

Significance (Low): This serves as a promotional highlight for the podcast's associated creative ventures, signaling new content for their audience and reinforcing their presence in the entertainment industry.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

10. Karloous Miller & DC Young Fly: Michael Jackson's Evolving Image

Timestamp: 00:32:23 to 00:35:59 - watch this moment on skim

The hosts discuss Michael Jackson's enduring fame and how his image evolved, particularly noting the shift in his appearance and the public's reaction. Karloous Miller, born in '81, recalls the 'what the [expletive] is that?' moment when Jackson's skin tone changed significantly around the 'Bad' album era, suggesting a disconnect for those who didn't witness the gradual changes or understand vitiligo. DC Young Fly emphasizes Jackson's unparalleled talent and iconic status, referencing 'Thriller' and 'Billie Jean' as timeless hits. The conversation concludes by acknowledging Jackson's unique place in pop culture history, alongside figures like God and Santa Claus, as universally recognized icons.

Significance (Medium): This segment delves into the complex public perception of Michael Jackson, highlighting generational differences in how his transformation was viewed. It touches upon themes of identity, fame, and the public's often critical gaze on celebrity.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

11. DC Young Fly: Marlin Jackson's Struggle for Recognition

Timestamp: 00:33:54 to 00:36:52 - watch this moment on skim

DC Young Fly argues that Marlin Jackson, Michael Jackson's brother, consistently tried to outshine Michael within the Jackson 5 and later solo endeavors, often being overshadowed. He cites footage and the 'American Dream' movie as evidence of Marlin's persistent efforts to be in the spotlight, even when relegated to background dancing or less prominent roles. The discussion suggests that while Marlin was a talented performer, Michael's unique charisma and talent made him the undeniable star, leaving Marlin in his shadow. The point resolves with the acknowledgment that Marlin's efforts, while perhaps unrewarded in terms of superstardom, kept him connected to his brother's legacy.

Significance (Medium): This perspective offers an intimate look at sibling dynamics within a global phenomenon, highlighting the challenges of competing with extraordinary talent. It sheds light on the often-unseen struggles of artists who share a stage with a superstar.

Sources in support: DC Young Fly (Host), Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

12. Karloous Miller: The 80s as a Bridge Between Eras

Timestamp: 00:39:00 to 00:42:03 - watch this moment on skim

Karloous Miller characterizes the 1980s as a pivotal decade where racial integration in media and society began to visibly bridge divides, contrasting it with the more confrontational 60s and 70s. He points to shows like 'The Cosby Show' and 'The Jeffersons' as prime examples of Black success being normalized on television, showing affluent Black families in suburban settings. This era, he suggests, was a time when Black people began to live more prominently alongside white people in previously segregated spaces, marking a significant shift in cultural representation. The discussion concludes that the 80s fostered a more integrated social landscape, reflected in the media of the time.

Significance (High): This analysis provides a socio-cultural framework for understanding the media landscape of the 1980s, emphasizing its role in normalizing Black success and integration. It offers a valuable perspective on the progress of race relations as depicted through popular culture.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

13. DC Young Fly: The Smurfs' Allegorical Meaning

Timestamp: 00:44:34 to 00:46:23 - watch this moment on skim

DC Young Fly proposes an allegorical interpretation of 'The Smurfs,' suggesting the blue Smurfs represent Black people and the white antagonist, Gargamel, represents white oppression. He argues that the Smurfs' constant state of happiness and productivity, living in their mushroom village, is disrupted by Gargamel's persistent attempts to harm them, despite their harmless nature. The presence of Papa Smurf, the only one in red, is seen as a symbol of leadership or perhaps a figure of authority within the oppressed group. The discussion concludes that the cartoon, viewed through this lens, subtly comments on racial dynamics and systemic conflict.

Significance (Medium): This interpretation offers a provocative, albeit speculative, reading of a beloved children's cartoon, framing it as a commentary on racial struggle. It encourages viewers to look for deeper meanings in media and consider how societal issues might be subtly encoded in popular culture.

Sources in support: DC Young Fly (Host)

Neutral sources: Karlous Miller (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

14. The 'Black Experience' of The Lion King

Timestamp: 00:47:10 to 00:50:10 - watch this moment on skim

The hosts and guests passionately discuss 'The Lion King,' interpreting it as a profound representation of the 'black experience,' citing themes of overcoming adversity, family legacy, and the struggle against internal and external 'haters' like Scar. They argue that Simba's journey mirrors relatable life challenges, even down to the visual representation of characters.

Significance (High): This interpretation frames a universally acclaimed film through a specific cultural lens, highlighting how narratives can resonate differently based on lived experiences and cultural identity. It sparks a debate about representation in media.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

15. Scar's Haterade and Simba's Exile

Timestamp: 00:48:38 to 00:50:10 - watch this moment on skim

The discussion delves into Scar's motivations as a 'hater' whose envy and ambition led to the downfall of Pride Land, causing widespread suffering. Simba's subsequent exile is framed as a necessary period of self-discovery, where he learns resilience and wisdom from unlikely friends like Pumbaa and Timon, before ultimately returning to reclaim his birthright.

Significance (Medium): This analysis uses the film's narrative to explore themes of jealousy, consequence, and personal growth. It suggests that even negative experiences can lead to valuable lessons and eventual triumph.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

16. Critique of D.A.R.E. and Anti-Drug Messaging

Timestamp: 00:55:33 to 00:58:38 - watch this moment on skim

The panel critiques the effectiveness of past anti-drug programs like D.A.R.E., suggesting they were largely ineffective. They recall the program's methods, including showing drugs and issuing warnings, but argue that the direct exposure and the context of drug-infested neighborhoods made the messaging fall flat, leading many to ignore the warnings or even become curious.

Significance (High): This segment questions the efficacy of public service campaigns and educational programs aimed at youth, highlighting the gap between intended messages and real-world reception, especially when confronting complex social issues.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

17. Societal Shifts: Smoking, Gas, and Media

Timestamp: 00:59:23 to 01:02:06 - watch this moment on skim

The conversation shifts to broader societal changes, noting the decline of smoking in public spaces like restaurants and malls, the evolution of gas station payment systems from self-serve to attendant-assisted, and the shift from physical media like CDs to digital streaming. They recall a time when smoking was ubiquitous and gas pumping was a different experience.

Significance (Medium): This reflection on everyday life changes underscores the rapid pace of societal evolution and how norms around public health, convenience, and media consumption have dramatically transformed over the past few decades.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

18. The Decline of Physical Media and Rise of Streaming

Timestamp: 01:04:06 to 01:05:00 - watch this moment on skim

The hosts lament the decline of physical music formats like CDs, contrasting the past investment in albums with the current oversaturation of music available through streaming services. They recall the era of collecting CDs and the unique experience of owning an album, while acknowledging that stealing CDs was also prevalent.

Significance (Medium): This point highlights the significant disruption in the music industry and consumer behavior driven by digital technology, raising questions about value, ownership, and the future of artistic consumption.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest), Justin Whitehead (Guest)

19. DC Young Fly: Professionalizing Bookings

Timestamp: 01:09:05 to 01:09:26 - watch this moment on skim

DC Young Fly emphasizes a shift towards professional communication for bookings, directing inquiries to '[email protected]' and stating he will no longer respond to direct messages. This indicates a move to streamline business operations and manage expectations for potential collaborators or event organizers. The focus is on clear, official channels for all business dealings.

Significance (Medium): This signals a growth in the podcast's business operations, moving from informal outreach to a structured professional system. It aims to improve efficiency and manage the increasing demand for their services, ensuring serious inquiries are handled properly.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host), DC Young Fly (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest)

20. Karlous Miller: Upcoming Film 'Da Apartments 2'

Timestamp: 01:09:29 to 01:09:32 - watch this moment on skim

Karlous Miller discusses their upcoming film, 'Da Apartments 2,' indicating continued expansion into film production. This project signifies their ambition to grow beyond podcasting and establish a presence in the film industry, leveraging their established fanbase and comedic talent. The mention suggests a new avenue for content creation and audience engagement.

Significance (Medium): The development of 'Da Apartments 2' highlights the 85 South Show's strategic diversification into film, aiming to capture a broader audience and explore new creative frontiers. It signals a commitment to evolving their brand and increasing their media footprint.

Sources in support: DC Young Fly (Host), Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest)

21. Karlous Miller: Channel 85 Launch & Promotion

Timestamp: 01:09:32 to 01:10:08 - watch this moment on skim

Karlous Miller announces the launch of their independent streaming service, Channel 85, highlighting a special offer of 20% off for six months using the code '85enter'. He details the benefits, including early access to podcasts, exclusive live shows, specials, and merchandise discounts, positioning it as a comprehensive platform for fans. The service is available on multiple devices and platforms.

Significance (High): This strategic move into independent streaming aims to create a direct revenue stream and foster a closer community with their audience. It allows for greater creative control and a more integrated fan experience, potentially disrupting traditional media distribution for podcasts.

Sources in support: DC Young Fly (Host), Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: K Dubb (Guest)

22. DC Young Fly: Collaborating with Michael Jackson

Timestamp: 01:09:33 to 01:09:36 - watch this moment on skim

DC Young Fly mentions a past collaboration with Michael Jackson, hinting at a significant professional experience. While details are sparse, the mere mention of working with such an iconic figure suggests a notable moment in his career, underscoring his reach and past opportunities in the entertainment industry. This anecdote adds a layer of prestige to his narrative.

Significance (Medium): This brief mention adds a significant layer of credibility and intrigue to DC Young Fly's career narrative, linking him to one of the most influential artists in music history. It serves to elevate his status within the entertainment landscape.

Sources in support: Karlous Miller (Host)

Neutral sources: DC Young Fly (Host), K Dubb (Guest)